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Subject: COUNT THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST
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danda143 18.05.08 - 09:29pm
sis nama this is for you. Remember i promise you this?lol i already posted this in forum and to all hope you'll learn from it. :-) *
danda143 18.05.08 - 09:30pm
I would like to present what has in our day become a novel approach to determining what this number signifies. How about we forget debit cards, the Pope's address, the numeric equivalents of Greek letters, a new one world government, computer chips under the skin, forehead magnetic scans, Hebrew Numerology, etc., and get our interpretation from,
..the Bible Alone! *
danda143 18.05.08 - 09:31pm
What is The Number of the Beast
This brings us to the topic of, what does the number of the beast mean? His number of six hundred threescore and six has long been thought to be the key to the mystery of the beast. *
danda143 18.05.08 - 09:32pm
But in truth, it is the other way around. This beast that brings extreme false prophecy and apostasy in the Churches, is the key to understanding it's number. Bearing in mind all the things we've already learned, we have three very pertinent clues as to what the number of the beast represents. We can conclude from what we have gleaned from the scripture thus far, that those who are marked of the beast are: *
danda143 18.05.08 - 09:33pm
1. The unsaved
2. Those receiving his Name characteristic
3. Those who come under rule of their king Satan
4. Those who are the Buyers and Sellers
5. Those with the same mind or way of thinking as the beast They are the unsaved who have the name characteristic of their father, the devil, who rules over them. Their thinking is as a beast, namely, carnal, fleshly, and they are the buyers and sellers (more on this later). *
danda143 18.05.08 - 09:35pm
Revelation 13 :18
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. *
danda143 18.05.08 - 09:36pm
God tells us that it is wisdom and understanding rather than mathematical skills that is required to discover what the number of the beast signifies. And comparing scripture with scripture, we know that wisdom and understanding (Biblically speaking) is in the fear of the Lord to take His divine word very seriously and studiously. *
danda143 18.05.08 - 09:38pm
The unfaithful have no real fear of God or reverence for His word, and thus their allegiance and faithfulness to it becomes lukewarm. In looking superficially at the word, they lack the real spiritual insight and guidance of the Spirit instructing in the word. *
danda143 18.05.08 - 09:40pm
Biblical wisdom and understanding is given by the Spirit of God alone, and is evidenced by forsaking evil, repentance and humbly ''receiving'' God's correction.
Job 28 :28
And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding. *
namasuku 18.05.08 - 09:55pm
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danda143 18.05.08 - 10:03pm
He who has wisdom and understanding that will count the number of the beast is he that has a fear of the Lord that he will want to depart from evil. By contrast, the wicked will not depart from evil because they have no fear of the Lord. *
danda143 18.05.08 - 10:04pm
They will not depart from evil because they don't have this spiritual understanding that the true saints of God have. i.e., they won't have this wisdom and understanding that would allow them to count the number of the beast as the number signification of carnal man. *
danda143 18.05.08 - 10:06pm
Psalms 111 :10
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom : a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.
Proverbs 2 :6
For the LORD giveth wisdom : out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding .
Out of God's mouth (God's word) comes understanding, and fear of God again is seen as the starting point of being wise. *
danda143 18.05.08 - 10:07pm
Do we get the impression that wisdom and understanding is in reverential fear and faithfully following what proceeds out of the mouth of the lord? Only those indwelled by the Holy Spirit of God have this earnest desire to be lawful and faithfully follow what the scriptures actually teach. *
chris707 18.05.08 - 10:15pm
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danda143 19.05.08 - 03:02am
The rest will depart from the faith at the first sign of trouble or trial. They are ripe to be deceived by carnal lusts and vain imaginations of man's heart. How can we avoid such a fall? God declares that He who hath wisdom and understanding (true Believers) should Count the number of the beast. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:03am
In other words, exegete, calculate, evaluate, so that you know the character of the beast. No, it's not a mathematical equation, because God gives us but one number. How do you count one number? Well, the answer to this mystery is hidden in plain sight. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:04am
God tells us exactly what the number is. He states very succinctly, ..it is the Number of MAN!
Take note that your translation may read, the number of 'A' Man, but rest assured the a is not really (never was, never will be) in any m cripts. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:05am
It is not in any of the m cripts or copies of the original. We should understand that there are no indefinite articles in the Greek, as there are in English. The word is anarthrous or [anth'-ro-pos], and is a genitive case, which specifically defines. So be forewarned that in the Greek, it is the exact same declarative phrase as found in Romans:
Romans 2 :9
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of Man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:06am
Or again, as we see demonstrated in Corinthians:
1 st Corinthians 2 :9
But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart Of Man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
There is no article 'a' there, just as there is none in Revelation chapter 13. Or again, as seen in such contexts as Revelation chapter one:
Revelation 1 :13
And in the midst of the seven candlesticks, one like unto the Son Of Man ... *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:07am
This is the exact same Greek application as in Revelation chapter 13 . There is no article 'a' there, nor in Revelation chapter 13 , and there shouldn't be. The 'a' in Revelation chapter 13 was put there erroneously in some translations (presumably) because they thought that it might make it better understood. In reality of course, it has had the opposite effect. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:07am
Because some people (and even a few theologians) have because of this formed the misguided idea that there actually is an 'a' in that verse. Consequently, many think that this verse refers to a particular man , rather than simply man, or mankind, which is the way it was actually inspired of God to be written. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:08am
This number of the beast is the number of man. But there is no need to take my word for it, simply check it out carefully yourself. Compare in the original Greek, or get yourself an interlinear explanation, or consult any real expert in the Greek languages, and you will find this to be the case. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:09am
It is an undeniable fact that there is not written there, ..number of a man. What the Holy Spirit actually inspired written is,..it is the Number Of Man. So we have the beast a devouring creature signifying animalistic carnality, of the flesh. And we are told that the number of the beast is the number of man, whose number is six hundred, sixty and six. Finally, those with wisdom and understanding should count this number of man, which is of the beast. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:10am
Proverbs 4 :5
Get wisdom, get understanding : forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth.
Proverbs 9 :10
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
Colossians 1 :9
For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding ; *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:11am
Here is he who has wisdom and understanding. It is the Holy Spirit moving within us that we have a fear of God to 'keep' His word faithfully, and forget it not. And indeed, THIS is what will allow us to count the number of man. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:12am
2nd Timothy 2 :15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Rightly dividing the word of truth is done the same way as counting the number of the beast. Rightly Dividing means cutting or measuring correctly. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:24am
By extension, it's telling us to make just judgments concerning the word, that we may come to truth. Count the Number means to calculate or compute correctly. And by extension it's telling us it requires wisdom and understanding (as defined by God) to make just judgments concerning what this number of man represents. In effect, they're both telling the believers to do the same thing. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:25am
Search the scriptures to justly interpret God's word.
Genesis 40 :8
And they said unto him, We have dreamed a dream, and there is no interpreter of it. And Joseph said unto them, Do not interpretations belong to God? tell me them, I pray you.
Indeed they do. And God interprets His own word, by His own word, not by the private interpretations of men. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:25am
From the preceding considerations we know three things unquestionably. We know that the beast represents the devouring ministers of Satan. We know that the name of it's king is the destroyer. We know that the number of the beast is the number of man. And we know that it is not all men who are signified by this mark, only those who worship the image of the beast. i.e., those who are not truly in Christ are those numbered of the beast. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:26am
Moreover, from Revelation 13 :17 , and Revelation 14 :11, we know conclusively that those who receive the mark of the beast, are those who receive the name of the beast, and those who receive the name of the beast are those who receive the number of his name. In other words, the name, the mark, and the number are all synonymous, and really signify the very same thing. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:27am
Namely, the characteristics of Satan placed in those whom he rules over. It is the spirit of antichrist in those who serve him in this beastly kingdom.
So using a sound Bible alone hermeneutic, defining imagery by imagery, and comparing scripture with scripture, I believe that there is only one biblical conclusion possible. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:28am
And that is, those who receive this number of carnal man represent those of the Church who depart from the faith to serve the likeness of the beast. They forsake truth to serve carnality, having been robbed and snared 
so that the false prophet brings them into spiritual captivity. That is why in scripture false prophets are pictured as robbers who steal. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:29am
God gives them that image because they steal from God by deceiving the people, spoiling them (take by conquest) that they fall away and forsake God. By using the words Buyers and Sellers, God signifies the merchants have taken the Lord's house of prayer, and made it into a den of thieves by robbing God. God spoke of Israel the same way when their leaders were leading them astray as beasts upon a prey. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:30am
Isaiah 42 :22
But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore.
They are in spiritual captivity, in Satan's prison house, a prey for the beasts. This is the imagery God uses for those who were taken into captivity by Satan. And likewise it is the imagery God uses in Revelation 13 of the beast. The prey are those receiving his mark, name and number, as children of the devil. And we'll cover the buying and selling later. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:31am
But this prophecy of Isaiah 42 was fulfilled at Christ's first advent as the Old Covenant congregation fell into great apostasy. Those who have been deceived, or brought into servitude to Satan were pictured as snared in his prin lity, having been deceived by the false prophets (Isaiah 42 :14) who were controlled by the wicked one. We learn from scripture that there is nothing new under the sun. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:31am
That which has been is that which shall be, because Man does not seem to learn from biblical history.
Count The Number
We have seen many aspects of the beast that illustrate the significance of his number, but a truly sound exegesis is in the careful cross checking and cross referencing all of our conclusions, by continuing to compare scripture with scripture for total Biblical consistency throughout. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:32am
The question is, how do we Biblically count this number? And are the results in total harmony and agreement with everything else that we've learned? Lest we forget, we were told that those who possess wisdom and understanding, should count or calculate the number of the beast. And the number to count was given as six hundred, sixty, and six, and declared to be, The Number of Man . *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:33am
But how is it the number of man? Without a system we have chaos, and without biblical validation we have private interpretation. Thus we approach the scriptures both systematically and reverentially in order to assure that we have God's view, rather than our own idea of what we think is God's view. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:35am
As noted before, God gives no other number with which to count six hundred, sixty-six with. So we immediately discern that we are simply to count that one number. But how do we count six hundred sixty-six alone. There really is only one way, which is use the Bible as our example and count it the way other numbers are counted in scripture. We count it as a spiritual number. And since it obviously is not upon all, but only part of the whole are marked deceived of Satan to worship the image, we count it as part of the whole. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:36am
In other words, we count it as a fraction (part of the whole number). Not surprisingly, it all leads us to the very same conclusion. To answer any objection, in context, counting as a fraction is Biblically justifiable because it is referring to a part of the whole. Or more specifically, the 666 refers to those who are to be cut off from the whole by reason of their being deceived (marked), of the beast. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:36am
This in relationship to the part that God says will not be marked of the beast (The faithful of God), and whom we are told would be killed because of their faithfulness. So we have two fractions, or two parts. Those who will refuse to worship the beast and so be killed are numbered with God, one part. And those who worship the beast and receive his mark, are numbered with him as his part. So what is the number six hundred, sixty, and six counted as a fraction or as part of this whole? It breaks down to two thirds. And no surprise, this correlates perfectly with God's word because in the scriptures God uses the division of 1 /3 to symbolize the truly Saved who are brought through the fire and refined of God, and 2 /3 as those who are to be cut off from God. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 03:37am
And these marked of the beast are those designated to forsake God and be deceived (cut off) of the beast.
An illustration of this spiritual division can be seen in the third part of the shekel that was to be used for the work of the Sanctuary, which illustrates the work of the believer justified in the work of Christ. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 06:48am
Or in the prophesy of the coming Messiah, and man is numbered, we see Christ takes only the 'true believers' through the fire to cleanse them (Salvation), and we read that it was numbered 2 /3 that were to be cut off. This is six hundred and sixty and six, counted as a fraction of the whole. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 07:07am
Zechariah 13 :7-9
Awake, O Sword, against My Shepherd, and against the man that is My fellow, saith the Lord of hosts: Smite the Shepherd and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn Mine hand upon the little ones.
And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, Two Parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third part shall be left therein.
And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and try them as gold is tried: they shall call on My name, and I will hear them: I will say, it is My people: and they shall say, the Lord is My God. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 07:14am
Two parts therein, or, two parts of the congregation are to be cut off, and one part saved. The Lord our God has assigned the number (fraction) to count those whom Christ will bring to Salvation, and the number in His house who will be cut off. A remnant will be saved, and the rest are deceived and cut off. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 07:17am
The true believers are numbered as 1 /3 , and the unsaved who are cut off from God are numbered as 2 /3 . So here we have GOD'S defining a NUMBER of the whole that represents man being cut off from God. And He (not I) defines it as 2 /3. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 07:18am
And again, this correlates perfectly to what God said about the number of man who will buy and sell, being the number six hundred and sixty and six (2 /3). This number being written in the forehead and hand is an illustration that the spiritual condition of their mind, and the works of the hands, are of this carnality or beast that they serve. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 07:19am
Just as in the days of old, it is spiritual idolatry.
Jeremiah 44 :8
In that ye provoke me unto wrath with the works of your hands, burning incense unto other gods in the land of Egypt, whither ye be gone to dwell, that ye might cut yourselves off, and that ye might be a curse and a reproach among all the nations of the earth?
Just as in the days of old, it is spiritual idolatry. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 07:20am
Jeremiah 44 :8
In that ye provoke me unto wrath with the works of your hands, burning incense unto other gods in the land of Egypt, whither ye be gone to dwell, that ye might cut yourselves off, and that ye might be a curse and a reproach among all the nations of the earth?ustrating this fall. Those with this number, this name, and this mark, represents the man of lawlessness, whom Satan has deceived, and whom God has designated to be cut off. *
danda143 19.05.08 - 07:21am
Even if we simply look at the very context of Revelation 13 it confirms this. It's not the number of 'a' man as some have surmised, it is the number of man that is deceived. He is the forsaken who will be buying and selling in the Lord's house at this time. *
